From: peter duesberg
Sent: Friday, 10 March 2006 10:58 PM
To: bialy harvey
Cc: [Anthony Liversidge]; [Bob Leppo]; David Crowe; Val
Turner; [Etienne de Harven]; [Gordon Stewart]; [Celia Farber]
Subject: Re: will wonders never cease
I know about this 3d-electronmicrograph
of HIV by a German-UK team, and have sent the reference to
Liversidge about two weeks ago as "the answer" to the existence of
HIV. But apparently it got lost in the black whole of Anthony's
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 12:26 AM
To: Peter Duesberg
Cc: [Anthony Liversidge]; [Bob Leppo]; [Celia Farber]; [Claus
Koehnlein]; [David Rasnick]; Jim Wolfe
Subject: RE: will wonders never cease
Thanks very much for your email in regard
to the 2006 Briggs paper
published in Structure.1
There is no doubt that Briggs et al have
conducted a state of the art, technically superb study on the
morphology of some particles. But are those particles "the ultimate
answer to Perth"? That is, do they prove beyond reasonable doubt the
existence of HIV?
When you claimed the Continuum prize
you agreed with us that reverse transcriptase, particles and the
proteins detected in the cell cultures are not specific to
"HIV". You wrote then "Indeed, each of these criteria could
reflect another retrovirus, and some of these criteria, e.g.
particles and proteins, could reflect non-viral material altogether"2 (emphasis
Your claim for the existence of "HIV" and
thus for the prize was based on the existence of the "HIV"
infectious molecular clone.2, 3 However, neither you nor
Brian Foley who made a similar claim
could provide evidence for the existence of the “HIV" infectious
molecular clone. Now you say the electron micrographs of some
particles chosen arbitrarily from the myriad of particles of
different morphologies present in "AIDS" cultures4 are
"the answer" to the existence of “HIV”. Isn't this in conflict with
your views concerning the particles' specificity?
Because we had many requests to comment
on the Briggs paper we wrote a brief letter to Structure. Our
commentary and their letter of rejection are attached.
These are on our website under
“Papers/letter rejected by the scientific press”.
JA, Grunewald K, Glass B, Forster F, Krausslich HG, Fuller SD.
The Mechanism of HIV-1 Core Assembly: Insights from
Three-Dimensional Reconstructions of Authentic Virions. Structure
2. Duesberg PH. Peter Duesberg
responds. Continuum 1996; 4:8-9. http://www.altheal.org/continuum/Vol4no2.pdf
3. Duesberg PH. Near enough is
good enough? Continuum
1996; 4:26. http://www.altheal.org/continuum/Vol4no5.pdf
4. Papadopulos-Eleopulos E, Turner VF, Papadimitriou JM,
Causer D. Isolated facts about HIV-A reply. Continuum 1996;