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 on: September 08, 2011, 12:46:34 PM 
Started by Rod Knoll, blogger - Last post by Rod Knoll, blogger
At the bottom of this message, I am attaching a recent study ("WangMedHypothes2010") which lends credence to what the Perth Group have been saying about semen for years. (It is not necessary to believe in the existence of HPV nor in its supposedly destructive powers in order to see the evidence for the harmful effects of semen that is presented in this study.)

The following excerpt from a recent e-mail from the Perth Group provides an excellent summary of the Perth Group's contributions to AIDS discourse, including the data surrounding semen which they have cited and analyzed and how these published data compare to the policies of the Rethinking AIDS Group:

"At the beginning of the AIDS era the Perth Group put forward a theory of AIDS pathogenesis, presented supporting evidence and made predictions.  The Perth Group's views have not changed.  Most of them, including,

(a)       evidence that neither Montagnier nor Gallo isolated 'HIV' from 'fresh AIDS tissues' or from cultures, and thus proved its existence;

(b)       evidence that AIDS patients and those at risk are exposed to strong oxidising agents i.e. these individuals will be oxidised;

(c)       the relationship between redox and immune deficiency;

(d)       the relationship between redox, antibody synthesis and antibody/antigen reactions;

(e)       the role of drugs in AIDS and the mechanism (cellular oxidation), that is, the drug theory of AIDS;

(f)       semen toxicity, its role in AIDS and its mechanism;

(g)       the synergistic effects between semen and drugs;

(h)       ways of preventing and treating AIDS;

can be found in:  EPE, Reappraisal of AIDS-Is the oxidation induced by the risk factors the primary cause?, Medical Hypoth. 1988; 25:151-162.  Additional data on (f), including

1.         semen does not discriminate between the sexes.  It is toxic irrespective of where it is deposited, gut or vagina.  Although the site may determine different pathological effects.

2.         the toxicity of semen is facilitated by gut trauma, drugs, poor nutrition, stress.

3.         the toxicity of semen itself in a gay man may turn out not to be much higher than in a woman practising exclusively vaginal intercourse exposed to a similar volume of semen over a similar time.

can be found in E P-E, VT, JP, Kaposi's Sarcoma and HIV. Medical Hypoth. 1992; 39:22-29.  You may also like to read Looking Back on the Oxidative Stress Theory of AIDS.

Sometime around the mid 1990s, someone, somehow, changed the name of The Group for the Scientific Reappraisal of the HIV-AIDS Hypothesis to Rethinking AIDS.  RA has been claiming Montagnier proved the existence of HIV, the virus is sexually transmitted, albeit not very efficiently, but is harmless. More recently 'the last two presidents' claimed they showed there is no evidence that proves the existence of HIV.  But they also claim Montagnier did prove the existence of a retrovirus, an endogenous retrovirus, although all retrovirologists agree there are no endogenous retroviruses.  Neither have they published such evidence.

Now, in its 'new phase' RA lets dissidents know that:

1.    Montagnier says 'HIV is NOT the cause of AIDS'.

2.    According to RA HIV is a cause of AIDS (please see THIS MESSAGE for more information) and 'Stopping drug use, providing nutritious food, are obvious solutions to obvious problems and a blood test is unlikely to help'.  (There is no HIV expert who will not agree that factors other than HIV may cause immune deficiency and AIDS indicator diseases;  that HIV needs co-factors, accepted by Gallo in 1986, and that all drugs, recreational, prescription and ART, are toxic).

In other words, in its 'new phase', RA has exchanged position with Montagnier in regard to AIDS pathogenesis.  It appears RA is more devoted to Montagnier’s virus than Montagnier is himself.

There are two main differences between the HIV experts and RA.

1.         The HIV experts advocate testing.  RA states the test for the very virus that is a cause of AIDS, “is unlikely to help”.  In fact, RA advises those at risk to boycott the tests.

2.         The HIV experts claim AIDS is sexually transmitted.  RA states AIDS 'it’s not sexually transmissible' and advise those at risk to ignore safe sex education.

Since RA accepts that HIV is sexually transmitted and is a cause of AIDS, and the scientific literature shows beyond reasonable doubt that sex plays a role in AIDS, RA's advice is not only illogical, it is also grossly negligent. No wonder RA President David Crowe now says 'there is no RA science' and the scope of RA is not to deconstruct the HIV theory of AIDS."


In addition, in his 17-page paper on anal intercourse, openly gay "positive" dissident-and (former?) RA supporter Tony Lance cites the Perth Group's work but then has the gall to carefully cherry pick quotes from the Perth Group, all the while avoiding any mention of semen or condoms!

Lance's theory on anal sex is...ummm... HALF-ASSED because he fails to mention the toxic effects of semen and potential benefits of condom usage. Despite this fact and the fact that it has been very rare historically that an openly gay man would get promoted in RA, Lance and his theory had been promoted within RA by leaders who have repeatedly expressed what I assert is a really clear bias AGAINST condoms. Perhaps Lance has or had a similar bias himself. However, Lance has since experienced "more than a year of significant health challenges" which apparently compelled him to start taking the "anti-HIV" drugs! Also, another big supporter of Lance and his theory was conservative homophobe Henry Bauer who also believes in the Loch Ness monster. YAY! Just what the dissident movement needs-ANOTHER conservative who hates homos, but THIS one believes in NESSIE, too...(sigh)...

I haven't been able to determine if Lance is still held in high esteem by RA and Bauer, nor if Crowe has called Lance "insane", now that Lance has decided to take the "anti-HIV" drugs. For more information on the latest RA dissident supporters to start taking the "anti-HIV" drugs, please see THIS MESSAGE.

The above examples are hardly the first time that the leaders of Rethinking AIDS and the old "Group for Scientific Reappraisal of the HIV/AIDS Hypothesis" have thought with their penises. Celia Farber and Christine Maggiore, despite being physically attractive, never possessed the intellectual prowess to comprehend the very technical issues which they so often discussed-and which Farber, unfortunately continues to attempt to discuss-in public fora. That never stopped the mostly male, mostly heterosexual leadership of the dissident movement from promoting both of these bimbos, both of whom were die-hard (LITERALLY, in Maggiore's case) Duesberg dittoheads. (see: http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=23.msg31#msg31 for more on this problem).

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 on: April 11, 2011, 12:36:27 PM 
Started by Rod Knoll, blogger - Last post by Rod Knoll, blogger
As the fifth anniversary of its resuscitation approaches, the "Rethinking AIDS" organization, led by its President and small time political leader David Crowe, appears to be...um...RETHINKING its position on the spectrum of AIDS discourse.

On 21 February, 2011, Rethinking AIDS President David Crowe sent the following e-mail to supporters and potential supporters as an appeal for, what else- MONEY:

"Dear Fellow AIDS Rethinkers:

With your help, a new phase of the struggle against the destructive
hypothesis that HIV is the sole cause of AIDS is about to begin" (emphasis added)

In December, 2010, RA also added a new member to their board of directors, Dr. Marco Ruggiero, whose most profound contribution to the fight against the HIV fraud is his assertion that "...definitive evidence has accumulated demonstrating that HIV cannot be considered the sole cause of AIDS..."(emphasis added)

WOW! THAT'S really SHATTERING! I'll bet the AIDS industry is quaking in their boots over THAT statement!

For more insights into Ruggiero and his questionable science and ethics, we suggest you read THIS ANALYSIS and THIS ANALYSIS from a former prospective colleague of Ruggiero's with whom Ruggiero abruptly and inexplicably cut ties.

The following is from a recent e-mail from the Perth Group to its supporters:

Sometime around the mid 1990s, someone, somehow, changed the name of The Group for the Scientific Reappraisal of the HIV-AIDS Hypothesis to Rethinking AIDS.  RA has been claiming Montagnier proved the existence of HIV, the virus is sexually transmitted, albeit not very efficiently, but is harmless. More recently 'the last two presidents' claimed they showed there is no evidence that proves the existence of HIV.  But they also claim Montagnier did prove the existence of a retrovirus, an endogenous retrovirus, although all retrovirologists agree there are no endogenous retroviruses.  Neither have they published such evidence.

Now, in its 'new phase' RA lets dissidents know that:

1.    Montagnier says 'HIV is NOT the cause of AIDS'.

2.    According to RA HIV is a cause of AIDS and 'Stopping drug use, providing nutritious food, are obvious solutions to obvious problems and a blood test is unlikely to help'.  (There is no HIV expert who will not agree that factors other than HIV may cause immune deficiency and AIDS indicator diseases;  that HIV needs co-factors, accepted by Gallo in 1986, and that all drugs, recreational, prescription and ART, are toxic).

In other words, in its 'new phase', RA has exchanged position with Montagnier in regard to AIDS pathogenesis.  It appears RA is more devoted to Montagnier’s virus than Montagnier is himself.

There are two main differences between the HIV experts and RA.

1.         The HIV experts advocate testing.  RA states the test for the very virus that is a cause of AIDS, “is unlikely to help”.  In fact, RA advises those at risk to boycott the tests.

2.         The HIV experts claim AIDS is sexually transmitted.  RA states AIDS 'it’s not sexually transmissible' and advise those at risk to ignore safe sex education.

Since RA accepts that HIV is sexually transmitted and is a cause of AIDS, and the scientific literature shows beyond reasonable doubt that sex plays a role in AIDS, RA's advice is not only illogical, it is also grossly negligent. No wonder RA President David Crowe now says 'there is no RA science' and the scope of RA is not to deconstruct the HIV theory of AIDS."


The above facts, coupled with the fact that several "positive" former dissident supporters of RA are NOW taking the "anti-HIV" drugs (see: http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=3.0 for more on this), leads one to wonder:

WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON WITH THE RETHINKING AIDS GROUP THESE DAYS??

(click here to view a list of all discussions)

 13 
 on: April 06, 2011, 03:07:28 PM 
Started by Rod Knoll, blogger - Last post by Rod Knoll, blogger
PLEASE NOTE:

This forum is NOT geared toward lay people. If you are a lay person-especially if you are a lay person who has been diagnosed "HIV positive", and you are still new to the AIDS dissident controversy in general,

GET LOST!!

There is NOTHING YOU CAN DO to change things on your own!!


And despite the claims of other AIDS dissidents and even other supporters of the Perth Group, we do NOT need additional lay people involved in this movement. Lay people have been the primary source of most of our setbacks and troubles in the dissident movement!

You may *ATTEMPT* to have your physician(s) read the material that is on the Perth Group's web site, beginning with these eight frequently asked questions and answers. It is important to note that, unlike other AIDS dissident venues, we do NOT advocate making ANY changes or deletions to any treatment regimen(s) that your doctor has prescribed without the constant input from, and consultation with, your attending physician(s)! We do NOT advocate taking alternative therapies in the absence of any input from a physician. If, though, your physician does not appear to be open to hearing alternative views of any kind on so-called "HIV/AIDS", there is NOTHING YOU CAN DO except try to find another physician. However, you may NEVER be able to find one who is willing and open to exploring alternative views of ANY kind, and you certainly will NOT find any who are following CORRECT protocols that have been suggested by or much less endorsed by, the Perth Group! Don't believe me?? Have a look at THIS MESSAGE for more information.

Otherwise, if you are a lay person-and actually whether you are new to the AIDS dissident perspective or you are someone who is more familiar with the dissident movement, basically what I am saying is that you need to

GET LOST!!


 14 
 on: April 06, 2011, 06:56:15 AM 
Started by Rod Knoll, blogger - Last post by Rod Knoll, blogger
Contrary to assertions constantly being made by some in the RA/Duesberg faction, the Perth Group is NOT "doing nothing". They are actually working VERY hard to advance the much needed re-examination of so-called "HIV" but, unfortunately, many of their efforts are being stymied by Rethinking AIDS which is essentially a political organization bent on promoting Duesberg at the expense of science.

There are two articles which I've actually already cited on this forum but which I feel have not gotten the crucial attention they warrant. These articles present a clear focus and a promising plan of attack for dissidents.

The article at THIS LINK is a very shrewd analysis by the Perth Group of many of the problems the dissident movement faces. This article the Perth Group wrote is addressed to a clinician, and, while hopefully, patients can learn a lot from it, too, it is actually physicians who hold the key to making progress for the AIDS dissident cause. Dissidents can-quite justifiably-complain all they want about the corruption in the medical system. However, the fact is we aren't going to get anywhere without earning the support of clinicians, and we aren't going to earn that much needed support with the current platform of ideas which are unsupported by the scientific data and which are being spouted by the RA/Duesberg faction of dissidents.

The Perth Group have just addressed these issues again in a response to Duesberg-aligned dissidents who made criticisms of the Perth Group's latest document. See THIS MESSAGE for more details.

Another article with an exquisitely nuanced and detailed discussion of many of these problems is THIS ONE. It contains many assertions that stand in stark contradiction to Duesberg/RA's ideology. And for the latest review and clarification of the Perth Group's views on "HIV/AIDS", please read THIS LINK.

Keeping in mind the ideas discussed in the articles linked above, I feel compelled to repeat the warning that is on our home page and note that we do NOT endorse or advocate any "advice", information or content that is found on any other web sites or internet venues-including all other sites that are "dissident" in origin- that are not a part of the "theperthgroup.com" or "tig.org.za" domain names.

I would just add that it is my impression that there have been many dissidents, including many "famous" dissidents who have had an understanding of the Perth Group's hypothesis that might most accurately be described as "schizophrenic". Many in the "RA" group, including some ardent supporters of Duesberg, have repeatedly cited and referred to the Perth Group's work but ONLY with respect to the "HIV tests". Some have even mentioned the problems surrounding "HIV's" so-called "isolation" or lack of a gold standard for the tests. However, it's as if these dissidents have felt that the profound issues surrounding the missing virus and lack of proof for the isolation of "HIV" should remain ...um, well...ISOLATED as an autonomous issue that is relevant only to the discussion of what's wrong with the so-called "HIV tests". The "problems" with the tests are SUCH a NON-STARTER, the AIDS orthodoxy remains completely unfazed by the decades long ranting about these problems by stupid dissidents.

Unfortunately, the missing virus has many far-reaching tentacles, and, as such, it carries a profound impact on MANY issues in so-called "HIV/AIDS" in addition to the flaws in the tests. These would include very crucial issues like prognosis for those who have tested "positive" on so-called "HIV tests", determining what IS causing a person's "positive" reaction (since there's no proof that so-called "HIV" is causing the positive reaction) and, of course, the type and duration of treatment, if any, that should be given to such patients. Also, if the cellular redox plays a role in any of these issues as the data seem to indicate it might, then the redox state needs to be monitored for any alterations, and if such alterations do occur, they need to be addressed with appropriate changes in treatment.

In addition, it is clear that, when left to their own devices, many dissidents are just not bright enough to grasp this information, much of which is very technical. Instead, confusion seems rampant among dissidents (see this message: http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=3.0 for an example).

Lastly, those who feel that they possess a deeper than average interest in all of these differences among the various dissident scientists should also take the time to review THIS ARTICLE as well as all of the supporting documents that are linked in it.

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 on: November 21, 2010, 10:23:27 AM 
Started by Rod Knoll, blogger - Last post by Rod Knoll, blogger
There is now a documentary freely accessible on youtube which prominently features the Perth Group and the problems surrounding the purported isolation of "HIV". Please see THIS LINK for more information.

Also, The Perth Group have now established a page on Facebook which is at:

http://www.facebook.com/perthgroup

At this time, The Perth Group's Facebook page is being used only for posting of articles written by the Perth Group.

(click here to view a list of all discussions)

 16 
 on: October 12, 2010, 07:17:05 AM 
Started by Rod Knoll, blogger - Last post by Rod Knoll, blogger
In addition, it is my understanding that, after enduring the stupidity and the debacle of the Parenzee case, the Perth Group has decided (quite justifiably, in my opinion) to refuse to get involved in any court case in which Anthony Brink is not also involved. The Perth Group has obviously sensed trouble in attorney Steele's approach in the Zapata case and Brink has, too. Stay tuned for more insight into this terribly flawed case...


 17 
 on: October 12, 2010, 12:37:53 AM 
Started by Rod Knoll, blogger - Last post by Rod Knoll, blogger
Please read THIS NOTE from the Perth Group concerning the Zapata AZT wrongful death case.

Anthony Brink will soon follow with his "analysis of the incredibly ineptly drawn complaint by Duesberg’s and Leppo’s attorney, and why it’s doomed". For more information, go to http://tig.org.za/RA.htm and search for the following text: "A note from the Perth Group concerning the Zapata AZT wrongful death case..."

I also want to point out the fact that, in THEIR NOTE on the Zapata case, the Perth Group has graciously apologized for what they call their "inadvertent interference" in this case when, actually, their only so-called "interference" was merely replying to an e-mail which was sent to them by the lead attorney in the case.

It would be nice if David Crowe were to "man up" and apologize for his blatant and undeniably destructive interference in the Parenzee case.

 18 
 on: September 17, 2010, 01:45:58 PM 
Started by Rod Knoll, blogger - Last post by Rod Knoll, blogger
Every so often, I've noticed that dissidents grow excited by the possibility that people might start "asking questions" again about "HIV/AIDS". I am dismayed to know that even some members and fellow supporters of the Perth Group have fallen into similar excitement over a recent cinematic venture that is being touted as a boon to the dissident cause. However, these types of developments are nothing new! We dissidents HAVE managed to get people to "ask questions" MANY times in the past! Those who have a personal interest (i.e., those who've tested "positive") will MOST LIKELY ask questions after encountering the dissident perspectives for the first time. The problem is NOT in getting people to ask questions. The problem for dissidents is how we ANSWER those questions.

The one constant that has remained throughout the years, during times when the general public has had both high and low levels of interest in the dissident movement, has been the fact that Peter Duesberg and his incessant acolytes (like the moronic David Crowe) have been the prominent faction of dissidents. As one can see in the message above, the Perth Group definitely keep fighting, and that is certainly inspiring. Unfortunately, as long as Duesberg and his fellow "HIV is a harmless virus" advocates remain in the dissident movement, the movement remains woefully unprepared to accurately answer all those questions that people might start asking.

For updated information, SEE:

http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=53.0

(click here to view a list of all discussions)

 19 
 on: September 15, 2010, 06:50:40 AM 
Started by Rod Knoll, blogger - Last post by Rod Knoll, blogger
Conservative homophobe and Loch Ness monster believer Henry Bauer has acquired a habit of publishing papers in which he displays a complete disregard for science and ethics.

Go to:

THIS LINK


A link to another article of interest can be found at THIS LINK.

Also, Bauer had really helped to promote the assertions made by Tony Lance, a "seropositive" gay AIDS dissident who became famous within the dissident movement (and infamous outside the movement) during his dissident "career" by proposing and promoting a theory about anal intercourse in which he provided a rather selective look at the data on this topic. However, Tony Lance began taking the "anti-HIV" drugs-apparently for the first time-by 2012 after experiencing "more than a year of significant health challenges". As far as I can tell, Lance continues to take the so-called "anti-HIV" drugs to this day, and I haven't been able to determine if Bauer still holds Lance and his ideas on anal sex in high esteem or not. For more information, see: http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=3.0

The content at that link is updated frequently, so feel free to check that link often.

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 on: September 14, 2010, 04:15:24 PM 
Started by Rod Knoll, blogger - Last post by Rod Knoll, blogger
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