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"We have to fight science with science. And, unlike the opposition, we have to be 100% scientifically accurate with every single word we write if we want to be believed. Being right is only 3% of the answer and the remaining 97% is politics. But without the 3% the race doesn't start...."

(e-mail from the Perth Group to fellow dissidents, 3 December, 2008)
 
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 31 
 on: March 29, 2010, 05:28:31 AM 
Started by Rod Knoll, blogger - Last post by kiwipete
There will no doubt be an awful lot of criticism of your actions and pissyness, but hey if they cant stand the heat get outa the kitchen as the saying goes.         Most of those upset are not hiv+ and getting to the truth of the non virus is really not a priority.
Personally I think you and others who have stuck your necks out have done the coalface poz community a great service, we finally can  focus on the real issues concerning our health by directing our energy to the Perth Group research,  and that has only been possible from  the lancing of the boil and exposing the dishonesty and deceitfulness that has existed.
   So, far from wringing hands and sadness, its sunshine and roses, sorry about your bum Angry 

 32 
 on: March 28, 2010, 03:18:39 PM 
Started by Rod Knoll, blogger - Last post by Rod Knoll, blogger
If anyone feels that my postings on this site have been "hateful" (see, for example http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=3.0), I think the following explanation from Anthony Brink also helps to explain why I've exhibited anger in my writing lately:

"Of course it's all very sad...and everyone loves to wring their hands together and say how very sad it is, because indeed everyone's always wringing their hands together and saying how very sad it is, since it’s always sad when families break up, and we all like to think of ourselves as a big family; but in my view the intelligent, responsible thing to do after drying our eyes is sit up smartly and ask the hard question: how and why did it happen that the universally acknowledged scientific leaders of our movement -- who've attacked the 'HIV' theory of AIDS from the beginning, before anyone else, most radically, most comprehensively and, as the Parenzee case revealed, unanswerably -- dissociated themselves from (Rethinking AIDS), whose original incarnation in 1991 their principal scientist Eleni Papadopulos-Eleopulos co-founded and even lent its name: 'The Group for the Scientific Reappraisal of the HIV-AIDS Hypothesis'?

The enquiry into our enormous problems and their causes may excavate some unpleasant discoveries, but ours is not a suburban book club gathering where smiling all the time keeps it working, it's a struggle to advance in the most effective manner possible the truth we've discovered about an enormous medical mistake and rotten political construct causing tremendous harm.

The process will necessarily entail the graceful retirement of those who come off bested in the debates.

It goes without saying that anyone who is shown to have acted in a dishonest, grossly inept and harmful manner will be among the first to leave the field. Since obviously we can't have anyone dishonest, grossly inept and harmful to our work anywhere near the public face of our movement...."

(Excerpted from http://www.tig.org.za/The_Truth_Barrier.htm )

I've also had a really bad case of hemorrhoids for years, but that's another issue...

Rod Knoll,
"Rethinking AIDS" Exposed

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 33 
 on: March 28, 2010, 08:59:02 AM 
Started by Rod Knoll, blogger - Last post by Rod Knoll, blogger
If anyone is wondering why I sound so angry in my postings right now, I think the following from my friend Anthony Brink sums up my feelings:

"Of course it's all very sad...and everyone loves to wring their hands together and say how very sad it is, because indeed everyone's always wringing their hands together and saying how very sad it is, since it’s always sad when families break up, and we all like to think of ourselves as a big family; but in my view the intelligent, responsible thing to do after drying our eyes is sit up smartly and ask the hard question: how and why did it happen that the universally acknowledged scientific leaders of our movement -- who've attacked the 'HIV' theory of AIDS from the beginning, before anyone else, most radically, most comprehensively and, as the Parenzee case revealed, unanswerably -- dissociated themselves from (Rethinking AIDS), whose original incarnation in 1991 their principal scientist Eleni Papadopulos-Eleopulos co-founded and even lent its name: 'The Group for the Scientific Reappraisal of the HIV-AIDS Hypothesis'?

The enquiry into our enormous problems and their causes may excavate some unpleasant discoveries, but ours is not a suburban book club gathering where smiling all the time keeps it working, it's a struggle to advance in the most effective manner possible the truth we've discovered about an enormous medical mistake and rotten political construct causing tremendous harm.

The process will necessarily entail the graceful retirement of those who come off bested in the debates.

It goes without saying that anyone who is shown to have acted in a dishonest, grossly inept and harmful manner will be among the first to leave the field. Since obviously we can't have anyone dishonest, grossly inept and harmful to our work anywhere near the public face of our movement...."

(Excerpted from http://www.tig.org.za/The_Truth_Barrier.htm )

I've also had a really bad case of hemorrhoids for years, but that's another issue...

Rod Knoll,
"AIDS Dissidents EXPOSED"

 34 
 on: March 22, 2010, 02:45:11 AM 
Started by Rod Knoll, blogger - Last post by Rod Knoll, blogger
One of the most bizarre and persistent phenomena among the at-large AIDS dissident community that is not aligned with the Perth Group is their recurring discussion and pitiful, embarrassing attempts at analyzing the issues surrounding semen and sperm and their role in so-called "HIV/AIDS". These issues have resulted in the creation of additional divisions that exist between the scientifically literate dissidents who know that other dissidents who claim that "sex has nothing whatsoever to do with 'AIDS' or positivity" are WRONG and those dildo dissidents who are making such claims.

Peter-"HIV-exists-because-there-is-an-'infectious-molecular-clone'-of-it" Duesberg himself has pooh-poohed (pun intended) the anal sex/semen issue, but the most vehement critic of the Perth Group and their assertions about anal sex has been an elderly lay gay man from Duesberg's backyard, San Francisco. This zealous defender of all things anal sex is also a staunch defender of Duesberg and has written a couple articles on the topic of anal sex published only in LAY venues. In his critiques of the Perth Group, this elderly lay gay man routinely glosses over the solid technical data the Perth Group have repeatedly cited on the problems with semen and sperm and instead, he concentrates on anecdotal historical accounts from his and others' life histories. His most notable reference he ever cites is a BOOK (!) on "AIDS" and sex in which there is NO analysis of all the technical problems that are well-documented with semen and its constituent parts. Instead, the author of the relevant section of this book-who is a supporter of the HIV orthodoxy and who also published a review paper on essentially the same topic in a sexual behavior journal-discusses "surveys of sexual practices (that) suggest that heterosexual anal intercourse is far more common than generally realized".

This pro-anal sex and pro-Duesberg elderly lay gay man cites this orthodox researcher in an ongoing attempt of his to claim that this sexual practice is as widespread in the general, heterosexual (and presumably seronegative) population as it is in gay men. However, no one in the Perth Group or its contingent of supporters is contending that there is no underestimation of anal intercourse among heterosexuals! In fact, the Perth Group themselves cite from this same author and this same work in their analysis of Luc Montagnier's 1997 video interview! In addition, while it is true that this orthodox author of this reference shares the same goal that the elderly lay gay man has of showing "that heterosexual anal intercourse is far more common than generally realized", the orthodox researcher does NOT share the same motive as the zealous lay gay man whose motive is to reduce what he views as an undeservedly bad reputation that anal sex has. In fact, this researcher hardly takes an exculpatory view of this sexual practice himself, claiming that "(i)nfection with the AIDS virus is increasingly documented in women engaging in anal coitus with infected males" and that he and other researchers have "warned that clinicians and researchers underestimate the extent of heterosexual anal intercourse at some peril"!

Furthermore, the most relevant and scientific epidemiological data collected from the most relevant population of hetero women-those who have been diagnosed "seropositive" and/or with so-called "AIDS"-shows that, as the leader of the Perth Group has pointed out since her first solo paper on "AIDS", "many of the AIDS cases diagnosed in women may have resulted from the practice of anal intercourse by heterosexual couples". The most crucial point to this discussion is the fact that, while no one is disputing the fact that the act may indeed be more widespread among heteros than it is among homosexual men, the most important aspect is not the act of receptive anal sex itself but its *FREQUENCY* (from: http://www.theperthgroup.com/SCIPAPERS/reappraisalofaids.html ).

This elderly gay man-who is still cited today by many ignorant, newer dissidents and who freely admits to having had "boatloads" of semen up his butt-apparently never tested seropositive. Nevertheless, he has had a health history that is, in reality, FAR from clean. In the same conversation he had with me when he admitted to having "boatloads" of semen up his ass, this lay gay man also conceded that he had had "two immune deficiencies"(?)! Apparently, in the 1980s, he also suffered from many tangible illnesses-some apparently debilitating-including a bowel disorder of "mysterious" origin (hmmm...I wonder what might have caused THAT?!). In fact, he might even have been a case of "HIV-free AIDS", or so-called "ICL".

Since the apparent retirement of the elderly gay layman from San Francisco, the most "notable" such dissident to issue such a challenge to the Perth Group's assertions on semen is none other than David Crowe, NON-scientist layman, cell phone salesman and President of Rethinking AIDS. In making his challenge, businessman Crowe asserted that he knows more about the data surrounding sex and "AIDS" than the foremost scientific minds of the dissident movement. The Perth Group corrected Crowe HERE, but apparently Crowe is a slower learner than any of us ever knew. Crowe has persisted with his ignorance and The Perth Group felt the need to offer additional commentary HERE.

Unlike lay person Crowe, RA board member and professor of African Studies Charles Geshekter IS a PhD, but he is NOT a PhD in the biological or medical sciences. Geshekter, who was apparently deceived into feeling inspired by Crowe's stupidity, sensed an imaginary weakness in the Perth Group's rock solid science on the issue and tried to outsmart them. Perth put Geshekter in his place HERE.

These dildos, whose intelligence seems to rival that of the cast of "Jersey Shore", have an agenda that's as transparent as it is misguided: the return to the sexual freedom days of the pre-AIDS era. Scientifically literate dissidents know that it's not the act of receptive anal sex per se nor the fact that any segment of the population practices this sex act that is relevant to understanding the link between sex and both "positivity" and "AIDS". Again, what matters most in this discussion is the **FREQUENCY** with which the act is practiced.

It is also important to note that gay men are not the only men who enjoy anal sex. I daresay there are a lot of HETEROSEXUAL MEN who enjoy GIVING anal sex to female partners. It should also be noted that the majority if not ALL of the "leaders" of the RA group are heterosexual men. I also assert that many such heterosexual men are not only used to NOT wearing condoms during such activities, but they rather prefer no condoms. Perhaps that is another motivating factor "behind" (pun intended) the stance on anal sex and semen that has been taken by the above mentioned RA dildos.

Anyone who has read The Perth Group's approach to sex and "AIDS" knows that a public health policy with regard to sex is warranted and that such policy should be even more stringent than that offered by the AIDS industry, at least with respect to anal sex. The orthodoxy pushses condoms, but they really only care if a "positive" person fails to use "protection" from spreading "the virus". Perth's approach to the issue of sex and "AIDS" requires that ANYONE who practices passive anal intercourse needs to be protected from semen WHETHER OR NOT the semen belongs to someone who registers "positive".

As the Perth Group recently admonished the annoying "Anonymous Annoyed scientist" who attempted to challenge them on another non-scientific internet forum:

"The fact that you accuse us of harming 'others and society as a whole', means you have either not read or understood our papers. There is no scientific basis to your claim. Public health policy based on our views is more stringent than that recommended by the HIV experts. People who do not understand this fact reveal their ignorance of our views."

(scroll down to next message below for updated information)

 35 
 on: March 12, 2010, 10:46:28 AM 
Started by Rod Knoll, blogger - Last post by Rod Knoll, blogger
For an important comprehensive history of the current "Rethinking AIDS" group that was "resurrected" by David Crowe in 2006 (not to be confused with the old "Group for the Scientific Reappraisal of the HIV/AIDS Hypothesis"):

CLICK ON THIS LINK

Follow the document through all six parts which are linked at the above link. Trust me, this is a thoroughly devastating analysis.

RELATED TOPICS:

1. http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=24.0
2. http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=4.0
3. http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=42.0
4. http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=40.0


 36 
 on: March 05, 2010, 11:52:07 AM 
Started by Rod Knoll, blogger - Last post by Rod Knoll, blogger
There is new evidence recently made public which shows David Crowe's interference in the Parenzee trial. Go to TIG's "RA" page and scroll down the page until the paragraph that starts:

"Here’s the ‘cross-examination text’ that Crowe falsely denied having written"

We suggest that you read everything in that paragraph. Also read everything at the following link:

http://www.tig.org.za/How_David_Crowe_lost_three_appeal_applications_in_the_Parenzee_case.html

There is a new document on Crowe's interference in the Parenzee case at the link above.

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1. http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=23.0
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4. http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=30.0


 37 
 on: February 28, 2010, 09:31:26 PM 
Started by Rod Knoll, blogger - Last post by Rod Knoll, blogger
Gang,

There is a new and very comprehensive article from the Perth Group which ties together many issues, including an approach for treatment for those who register "positive" and those who've been diagnosed with so-called "AIDS". Sadly, in addition to being ignored by most orthodox "AIDS" researchers and clinicians, this approach also is being ignored by many leading dissidents who seem to espouse a "Don't Worry; Be Happy" approach to "positivity".

The article is a response by the Perth Group to this open letter sent to them by Italian clinician Dr. Fabio Franchi. It is at:

http://www.tig.org.za/Perth_Group_response_to_Fabio_Franchi.htm

and it can also be downloaded from the original at:

http://leederville.net/links/FabioFeb282010.doc

It's interesting that the head of the Perth Group "has been officially instructed not to come into any contact with any AIDS patient, including any who may approach" them.

The following is from two Italian activists-one male and one female-who are aligned with the Perth Group:

A PERFECT EXAMPLE

A 29 year old Italian homosexual with a steady relationship with another homosexual who had been previously married and had never had any another homosexual relationship was diagnosed HIV positive. He and his mother, an obstetrician, read Heinrich Kremer's book, and even though he had been in hospital with PCP for some months, he refused to take either antiretrovirals or antibiotics.

His mother travelled to Florence to ask the two Italian activists for advice. The female activist sent the mother an email advising that her son should be treated for his PCP in an orthodox way.

The mother never told either activist that she and her son had seen Dr. Fabio Franchi.

After some months, she emailed the male activist telling him that her son had decided to take antiretrovirals and that he was fine and had put on 9 kilos. Some months later, she emailed the same activist again telling him that her son's partner had also been diagnosed HIV positive and that this also confirmed to her a virus had to be involved.

According to Fabio, this example shows very well what is going on: patients go where they believe they can have better results in terms of health outcomes, and they then compare their experiences with the rival theories, and they reach the same conclusions as the 29 year old homosexual and his mother.

Fabio says the mistake many dissidents make, especially the Duesbergians (but also Kremer and Stefan Lanka, etc) is that if it were up to them, those patients should be left to die untreated, and this has happened many times. Fabio thinks this is why the dissident movement hasn't been very successful.

Franchi says that the above case is a perfect example, and that he mentioned similar cases about twelve years ago to Duesberg, Kremer, Lanka, Joan Shenton, Hector Gildemeister and other people. But he was ignored or told they suspected he had been bought by a pharmaceutical company.

END OF COMMENT FROM FABIO FRANCHI

Keeping in mind the ideas discussed in the articles linked above, I feel compelled to repeat the warning that is on our home page and note that we do NOT endorse or advocate any "advice", information or content that is found on any other web sites or internet venues-including all other sites that are "dissident" in origin- that are not a part of the "theperthgroup.com" or "tig.org.za" domain names.

In addition, it is clear that, when left to their own devices, many dissidents are just not bright enough to grasp this information, much of which is very technical. Instead, confusion seems rampant among dissidents (see this message: http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=3.0 for an example).

Lastly, those who feel that they possess a deeper than average interest in all of these differences among the various dissident scientists should also take the time to review THIS ARTICLE as well as all of the supporting documents that are linked in it.

For important companion pieces to this message, we recommend that you read this message and this message.

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1. http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=25.0
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3. http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=46.0


 38 
 on: February 24, 2010, 10:36:10 AM 
Started by Rod Knoll, blogger - Last post by Rod Knoll, blogger
The discussion on Facebook has since been deleted. Some of it has been captured at THIS LINK.


 39 
 on: February 21, 2010, 09:16:30 PM 
Started by Rod Knoll, blogger - Last post by Rod Knoll, blogger
In Spring, 2009, the Rethinking AIDS organization published a brochure called "The AIDS Trap". This brochure is so full of scientific errors, one leading dissident scientist has called it "second grade primary school pathetic".

However, could this brochure possibly get RA into trouble, as in LEGAL trouble? Only time will tell, but it seems a possibility as long as RA and its acolytes persist in distributing the brochure.

For more information on this, please see:

1. http://www.tig.org.za/The%20AIDS%20Trap%20as%20an%20illustration.htm
2. http://www.theperthgroup.com/LATEST/RATPGCommentary.html

Keeping in mind the ideas discussed in the articles linked above, I feel compelled to repeat the warning that is on our home page and note that we do NOT endorse or advocate any "advice", information or content that is found on any other web sites or internet venues-including all other sites that are "dissident" in origin- that are not a part of the "theperthgroup.com" or "tig.org.za" domain names.

UPDATE: After two more dissidents died who were among their more popular "positive" colleagues and after they themselves began experiencing "significant health challenges", recently some former defenders of RA have actually begun taking the "anti-HIV" drugs! Most recently, one of their remaining colleagues also died, after repeatedly refusing medical intervention and after YEARS of having been a HUGE annoyance to all the scientifically literate Perth Group supporters who interacted with him! For more information on this latest development, please see:

http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=3.0

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1. http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=30.0
2. http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=24.0
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4. http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=32.0
5. http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=42.0


 40 
 on: February 21, 2010, 03:06:08 AM 
Started by Rod Knoll, blogger - Last post by Rod Knoll, blogger
Gang,

I wanted to make sure everyone knew that the old "Rethinking 'Rethinking AIDS'" thread that was censored from the old forum is available once again online at the following link:

http://www.tig.org.za/Rethinking_%27Rethinking_AIDS%27_at_AME_main_cuts.html

It is important to note that, after seeing this thread linked above, two of the members of the "governing committee" of the new, hijacked forum-Brian Carter (one of the two "briliant Brians" on the new forum) and Jonathan Barnett-behaved like blue-haired old church ladies, sitting in their pew, clutching their pearlstrings and huffing and puffing their disapproval.

UPDATE: BARNETT IS NOW TAKING THE "ANTI-HIV" MEDS and so is one of the other "poz" thieves of the old forum, Tony Lance! For more information, please see:

http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=3.0 (the article at this link is continuously updated; check it often)


This thread was deleted shortly after it appeared by the other "briliiant Brian", Brian "clueless" Coogan , our host of the old forum and chief hijacker of it. Looking at the inane text on the new forum, one can see that Coogan-who is also the chief architect of the new forum-has little knowledge of the issues surrounding so-called "HIV" and "AIDS".

However, last summer he revealed that he is hardly a legal scholar, either. David Crowe is President of the U.S.-based non-profit corporation called "Rethinking AIDS", and he has repeatedly engaged in public controversion himself. Despite these facts, clueless Coogan was afraid some of the posts in the "Rethinking 'Rethinking AIDS'" thread were too "libelous", so, in his infinite wisdom he felt it was necessary to censor the discussion and insisted upon deleting the entire thread, of course.

When we were first discussing the possibility of him hosting the forum (circa 2006), Coogan assured me that nothing the AIDS industry could threaten would get him to take down the site or thwart any of our efforts on the forum. "Screw them. They would complain to the host, and we're the host", he assured me. However, apparently for Coogan, the well-documented attacks against Crowe were far worse than anything the AIDS industry ITSELF could have threatened. What more likely happened is that Crowe probably got to Coogan and threatened legal action if Coogan did not delete the material critical of him. This is precisely what Crowe has done to me.

The "Rethinking 'Rethinking AIDS'" thread has been restored with all relevant posts at the link above. Thanks to Anthony Brink for storing it on his site (and for editing all the useless crap that was posted in the complete thread).

RELATED TOPICS:

1. http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=30.0
2. http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=25.0
3. http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=4.0
4. http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=33.0
5. http://www.tig.org.za/index.php?topic=42.0


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